Episode 8 - This one is NASTY!

[00:00:00] Speaker A: It's date night. [00:00:00] Speaker B: It's date night. We're recording. What are we gonna do on date night? [00:00:04] Speaker A: Let's go record a podcast. [00:00:05] Speaker B: The fact that I don't. I feel a little unprepared since I don't really know much about what we're talking about. [00:00:10] Speaker A: Just part of my master plan. I like to keep you in the dark as much as I can. Yeah, and what? We didn't play pickleball this week. [00:00:19] Speaker B: I know. It's cause I'm getting ready for a big health fair. [00:00:23] Speaker A: Yeah, but you signed us up for a tournament. [00:00:25] Speaker B: I know. That was to make myself play, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna play more. [00:00:29] Speaker A: Apparently, that didn't work. I'm gonna make myself play by signing up for a tournament and then not play. Also. [00:00:40] Speaker B: What? [00:00:40] Speaker A: I looked in the back of your car, and I'm a little disappointed. [00:00:43] Speaker B: My bag. [00:00:44] Speaker A: There was no pickleball anything in there. [00:00:46] Speaker B: I cleaned out my car because I was expecting to do stuff. [00:00:49] Speaker A: If you're gonna be married to me, babe, you gotta represent. [00:00:51] Speaker B: First of all, I come home, grab my bag, and then head to the court so that my stuff stays nice. [00:00:59] Speaker A: What are people going to do if there's a pickleball game that just breaks out and you're there with no equipment? [00:01:03] Speaker B: Well, at work. I have equipment at work. [00:01:06] Speaker A: True. I've seen them break out at airports before. [00:01:10] Speaker B: That's fun. [00:01:12] Speaker A: That's all you got? [00:01:14] Speaker B: Well, I was just thinking. [00:01:15] Speaker A: Not outside on the concourses. Yeah. [00:01:19] Speaker B: No. When you were saying that, it made me think of that tiny little net that I saw an ad for on Facebook. [00:01:24] Speaker A: We didn't just see an ad. [00:01:26] Speaker B: I felt like I just saw the ad. [00:01:28] Speaker A: Oh, we did. But that's not all we did. [00:01:30] Speaker B: Oh, did we buy it? [00:01:31] Speaker A: We bought it. [00:01:32] Speaker B: I had a feeling when I tagged you. [00:01:33] Speaker A: Yeah, you tagged me. I feel like that's a green light. [00:01:35] Speaker B: I feel like it's a green light, too. [00:01:39] Speaker A: I'm not to go back through those tags. [00:01:42] Speaker B: It's usually me tagging you to get me something. [00:01:45] Speaker A: Probably. [00:01:46] Speaker B: So go ahead. [00:01:47] Speaker A: Sneaky Pete. [00:01:48] Speaker B: Not really sneaky. Just being a very helpful wife. Here's what to buy me. [00:01:53] Speaker A: I'm staring at a t shirt that says, I never question my wife's choices because I'm one of them. That's a good 131 years. [00:02:01] Speaker B: Yep. [00:02:02] Speaker A: 32 in December. We're like the halfway point here. [00:02:05] Speaker B: Halfway point of our life of this year. [00:02:07] Speaker A: Oh, that would be fine with me. I'd live to be 110. I'll be playing pickleball stuff if I'm still playing pickleball, I'm okay. [00:02:16] Speaker B: I do not want to live to 110. [00:02:18] Speaker A: Well, that's probably cause when I die, you'll die. You won't be able to live without me. [00:02:22] Speaker B: Oh, is that it? [00:02:23] Speaker A: We'll be one of those couples that miraculously dies within a day of each other. [00:02:25] Speaker B: Aw. Are you writing a movie script now? [00:02:29] Speaker A: No. Are you ready to get nasty? [00:02:32] Speaker B: What? [00:02:39] Speaker A: That's right. This episode is nasty. [00:02:42] Speaker B: I'm very nervous right now. [00:02:44] Speaker A: I'm glad to hear that. [00:02:46] Speaker B: Okay. [00:02:47] Speaker A: I played against, I think it was Luke. Luke Gibson, who was a. [00:02:51] Speaker B: Yes. [00:02:51] Speaker A: Who was on our podcast, and that stupid little rascal, Nasty Nelson, to me at the end of a game to win the game. [00:02:56] Speaker B: Oh, I bet he was ecstatic. [00:02:59] Speaker A: And then just a few days ago, Josh Uyghur did the same thing. [00:03:03] Speaker B: No way. [00:03:04] Speaker A: Yeah. And I just. All I can do is smile and congratulate him because I love the nasty Nelson. [00:03:10] Speaker B: Well, you're gonna have to describe it to me because I've. I'm sure I've seen it, but I'm not sure if I could describe it. [00:03:15] Speaker A: Okay, well, there was a guy named Nelson, and he used to love. Probably still does love. [00:03:20] Speaker B: Like, we should have some theme music for Nelson. [00:03:24] Speaker A: Like, how about Pink Panther time? [00:03:27] Speaker B: There was this guy named Nelson. [00:03:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. Well, anyway, once upon a time, he used to love to serve the win. He would serve, he would hit the other player, not the guy. He was hitting two. [00:03:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:39] Speaker A: Yeah. So if he hit the other player. [00:03:41] Speaker B: That did happen to me. [00:03:44] Speaker A: Before it bounces. [00:03:45] Speaker B: Yes. [00:03:46] Speaker A: That's a point for your team. [00:03:48] Speaker B: Right. I didn't get out of the way. I just stood there. [00:03:49] Speaker A: Right. Because it's a fault on you. Joe Clark. Joe Clark, who we play with. Real good player. I'm going to pick on him because you could hit it soft to him and he was going to hit it back just because his mind was like, I have, like, my jobs to hit the ball. [00:04:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:05] Speaker A: So I. Nasty Nelson Hill. I don't know how many times. [00:04:07] Speaker B: Gotcha. [00:04:08] Speaker A: Probably more than anybody else. [00:04:09] Speaker B: So it's on the serve. [00:04:11] Speaker A: Well, it has to be on the serve. I mean, you can hit someone anytime you want, but the nasty Nelson is called the serve. Right? It's on the serve. Yeah. Okay, so back up to me learning about this shot, which was in our first year of playing pickleball, and Scott golden was talking a lot about it online, showing some videos, and I was like, oh, I want to do that. [00:04:32] Speaker B: Really? On purpose. [00:04:34] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:04:35] Speaker B: So you do do it on purpose, like they. [00:04:37] Speaker A: Oh, absolutely. [00:04:38] Speaker B: Like, it's an it. It really is nasty. Because being. You're, like, strategically being mean. [00:04:44] Speaker A: Yes. [00:04:44] Speaker B: I didn't say that. Right. Strategically being mean. [00:04:46] Speaker A: I'm leaving it in. [00:04:47] Speaker B: Wow. [00:04:48] Speaker A: Sounded good to me. [00:04:50] Speaker B: That's rotten. [00:04:51] Speaker A: No, it's nasty. That's the point of the nasty, Nelson. [00:04:55] Speaker B: Okay. I feel like it when it happened to me, it was an accident. And then because I didn't move, they're like, that's a point for us. [00:05:02] Speaker A: That is not an accident. [00:05:03] Speaker B: Well, it seemed like it at the time, maybe. [00:05:07] Speaker A: But I want to say this to all of our. What do we have, three listeners? Is that what we determined before? [00:05:12] Speaker B: Like 70? [00:05:13] Speaker A: We have some decent listeners. Thank you all for listening, by the way. We're grateful. Here's kind of how I show you, my opponent, that I like you. [00:05:22] Speaker B: Okay. [00:05:23] Speaker A: I tried a nasty nails on you. [00:05:25] Speaker B: That's how you show love. [00:05:26] Speaker A: It is, yeah. [00:05:27] Speaker B: Sarcasm. In this case, in the form of a nasty Nelson. [00:05:30] Speaker A: Sure. There you go. I'm a sarcastic lover. That would be the name of our movie then. Just scripting a bit ago. The sarcastic lover and how he died seven times. Definitely not based on a real story. [00:05:43] Speaker B: Not true story, but they say based. [00:05:45] Speaker A: On true events, not true events. Based on untrue events. [00:05:49] Speaker B: Opposite of true. All right, so I would defend you with my life. [00:05:54] Speaker A: That is awesome. I guess I would say the same for you. [00:05:57] Speaker B: It's true. [00:05:58] Speaker A: Of course I would. I would take a bullet for you, baby. Yes. Smack him around. All right, so I first started, and Luke was probably one of my first victims, but I know I hit James and Robin and Paul. [00:06:11] Speaker B: You hit my friend Robin? [00:06:12] Speaker A: Do I like her or not? [00:06:14] Speaker B: Yes, but on purpose. [00:06:16] Speaker A: We have just gone over this. I feel like I'm having a really. [00:06:19] Speaker B: Hard time with this conversation. So I can't fathom wanting to hurt anybody. [00:06:25] Speaker A: I didn't say I tried to hurt her. I wanted to point, so I whacked her with a pickleball. [00:06:32] Speaker B: Okay. I just. It's not in my DNA to want to nasty Nelson. If I did, it would be a complete accident. For those of us, for those who play with me in the future, if I nasty Nelson you, it's totally an accident. [00:06:47] Speaker A: And you're totally not paying attention because she doesn't hit it fast enough to get to you in time. You have plenty of time to move. Hey, no, I'm just being honest. It's not a compliment. It's an absolute straight up truth. [00:07:00] Speaker B: Okay. Still not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but go ahead. [00:07:05] Speaker A: It is what it is. Your serves are in. [00:07:07] Speaker B: That's true. [00:07:07] Speaker A: Your serves are in. That's a lot of what it's asked of a person on a serve. [00:07:11] Speaker B: I try to get my serves in. [00:07:13] Speaker A: So I started nasty nursing people, all the people I like. If I haven't nasty Nelson to you yet, or even tried, it's probably just because I haven't realized, because I like pretty much everyone I play pickleball with. Yeah, but now that means I would have tried like nasty Nelson in like a thousand people, which could get you a reputation. [00:07:31] Speaker B: You might have that reputation. [00:07:32] Speaker A: I already have that reputation. [00:07:33] Speaker B: You do? [00:07:33] Speaker A: I love to hit people not hurt. That will be my tagline. Hit not hurt. Maybe that should be the movie the untold story of hit not hurt. [00:07:45] Speaker B: Okay, let's put a pin in that. So obviously Nasty Nelson is one of the things that you wanted to cover tonight, is there? [00:07:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I just thought it would be. That's it. We're done. It's been eight minutes. Have a good time. Yes. I thought we would talk about some of the sort of named or special hits in the game. [00:08:04] Speaker B: Okay. [00:08:05] Speaker A: There are a lot and there are some fancy pants ones and I'm not going to get into all of those. Like Kyle Yates has a really sweet shot. But we'll talk about this on a different episode. I want to talk about sort of the common ones that most people know. I think most people know what a nasty Nelson is. Or maybe you've heard the term and now we're going, oh, that's what it is. Then there's also a very common term around the post or ATP. Again, another one of my favorite shots to hit. Have you ever hit one? [00:08:32] Speaker B: I have. I thought so once. [00:08:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I've hit one on a serve return, which is abnormal. But they served me way out wide. I had a shot at it and around the post is what it sounds like. Instead of going over the net, you're off to the side of the court with enough room to hit the ball very low like net and lower height, 1ft off the ground, six inches off the ground, whatever. Over to the opponent's court by going around the outside edge of the post instead of over the net. So it's an ATP. Perfectly legal. Legal in tennis, but rarely seen in tennis because in singles in particular, the tennis nets very wide because you've got those extra alleys for the doubles game. But it's allowed in tennis too, so that's kind of interesting. [00:09:16] Speaker B: I did not know that. [00:09:17] Speaker A: Probably why it's allowed in pickleball, probably. We don't like to claim a lot of tennis stuff, and tennis people don't like to claim a lot of pickleball stuff. But truth is, there's a lot of similarities in the game, especially in the rules, so. [00:09:28] Speaker B: Yep. [00:09:29] Speaker A: Anyway, that's an ATP and I love atps. I actually used to hit them much better backhanded. I figured out how to hit him better forehanded. And I'm really now enjoying it because I'm getting a lot better shots in, so. [00:09:41] Speaker B: Nice. [00:09:41] Speaker A: Yeah. The day we played Josh Bieger, he was on my team. He had just missed one on the left backhand and then maybe three plays later I made one on the right. He's like, yeah, that's how you do it. I think that's why he decided to Nasty Nelson be later in the game. Probably because I don't teach Josh much in pickleball anymore. [00:09:59] Speaker B: No, he's great. [00:10:00] Speaker A: I used to, but he is so stinking good now and fun. [00:10:03] Speaker B: Fun to play with. [00:10:03] Speaker A: He has a great guy. I love him to death. Love him like a brother. So. [00:10:08] Speaker B: ATP. Yep. ATP or around the post? [00:10:11] Speaker A: Yep. Nasty Nelson. [00:10:12] Speaker B: Nasty Nelson. [00:10:13] Speaker A: Now, nasty is the only one I'm going to talk about that kind of happens from the back end of the court, from behind the baseline because it's on the serve. ATP typically happens closer to the net, although it doesn't have to. But let's get up even closer to the net and talk about an Ernie. [00:10:27] Speaker B: Okay. [00:10:28] Speaker A: And a Bert. [00:10:29] Speaker B: A Bert and an Ernie. Like Sesame street. [00:10:31] Speaker A: We're going to take the Sesame street tour. [00:10:33] Speaker B: Okay. [00:10:34] Speaker A: And Ernie is named after a guy named Ernie. [00:10:38] Speaker B: Really? [00:10:39] Speaker A: E r n E. Okay. It's not with an I. Like a lot of people want to spell it. Like Burton Ernie on. Yep. [00:10:48] Speaker B: Interesting. [00:10:49] Speaker A: In fact, I think there's even a pickleball machine named the Ernie pickleball machine named after this guy. He made popular a shot where he is outside of the non volley zone or the kitchen area. Right. And he hits the ball, but because he's outside of the court completely, not just behind the kitchen line, but actually off the court, off the side of the court, outside the sidelines. Ernie Perry, that's his full name, would be able to get a lot closer to the net as long as he stayed outside that line and then he could whack the ball. Now we've got a lot more athleticism in today's sport. And now people are jumping over the kitchen to the outside and hitting it in the air. [00:11:32] Speaker B: I've seen them do that. [00:11:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:33] Speaker B: Jump diagonal. [00:11:34] Speaker A: Yeah, but that's still an Ernie. So essentially your shot, you're either already outside or you land outside the court on the. On the sideline side of the court. Couple important things, and this is important for the ATP as well. You cannot cross the imaginary line and the line of the net extended out and literally all the way around the world. [00:11:54] Speaker B: Right? [00:11:54] Speaker A: So think about your nets, 22ft wide, but the line between those 22ft keeps going in each direction. So I can't cross that line at all unless it's after I've hit the ball or to follow the ball across that line to be able to hit it. [00:12:11] Speaker B: Okay. [00:12:12] Speaker A: Well, sometimes with win and backspin, the ball can come backwards toward the team that just hit it. [00:12:18] Speaker B: Right. [00:12:18] Speaker A: Which pulls it back across that line that had just gone over to your side. [00:12:22] Speaker B: Right. [00:12:22] Speaker A: So you're allowed to follow the ball back to hit it. [00:12:25] Speaker B: Okay. [00:12:26] Speaker A: So if someone hits a weird shot with a lot of spin and curves and it's windy and it starts to curve back, I can, I can follow it around on the ATP side or on the earnings side. That's the only time I can cross that line. [00:12:35] Speaker B: Wow. [00:12:36] Speaker A: I still can't touch their side of the court at all. Okay, now their court is inside the lines, right? It's the lines and inside. So I can be on their half of the whole entire playing area with all the outside extra space. Never can touch their court. [00:12:50] Speaker B: Okay. [00:12:52] Speaker A: And I could never touch the net or the post. [00:12:54] Speaker B: Okay. [00:12:55] Speaker A: So any of those things would be a fault. [00:12:57] Speaker B: I've seen one in tournaments that we have watched on tv, but I don't know if I've ever seen one live. [00:13:05] Speaker A: And Ernie. [00:13:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:06] Speaker A: Trent Palmer is very good at him. He loves to do them. He probably does more than anyone else that I play with. Very good at it. Josh Weger is starting to do it more often, and he's pretty darn good at it, too. I've definitely seen Luke do some as well. I go for it every once in a while, but I am. I'm much more rare to go for it than they are and I'm much slower than all three of those guys are, so. [00:13:27] Speaker B: Well, you put yourself at a disadvantage. [00:13:29] Speaker A: Do. Why? [00:13:30] Speaker B: Because you leave that whole section of court open if you're over off of the side. Unless your partner is really, really good at singles. Yeah. [00:13:38] Speaker A: Now, the good news is a good player that you're playing against won't hit it straight back across the net where you can whack it. Right? [00:13:44] Speaker B: Right. [00:13:44] Speaker A: But that does take away that part of the court so your partner doesn't have to cover all the court. Just a little bit more of the court than normal. [00:13:50] Speaker B: Right. [00:13:51] Speaker A: But then you also got to get back and be in position to hit the next ball. [00:13:54] Speaker B: So a lot of energy. [00:13:56] Speaker A: I think I saw Joe drown hit one the other day. [00:13:59] Speaker B: Oh. [00:13:59] Speaker A: Which shocked me, because I don't think I've seen him hit one in a long time. [00:14:02] Speaker B: Nice. [00:14:02] Speaker A: I'm trying to remember now if he got over shady side. [00:14:06] Speaker B: I think I remember the cheers. [00:14:09] Speaker A: I feel like he actually headed into the net, but I don't want to give him any. Do a disservice here. He might have made it, and now I can't remember. [00:14:17] Speaker B: I think he made it because I. [00:14:19] Speaker A: Was just surprised because Joe doesn't normally do that shot. And it was athletic. Good move. Jumped over the line and the sideline. Anyway, so that's an Ernie. Okay, so what do you think a Bert is? Because it is related to the Ernie. [00:14:34] Speaker B: My guess would be it still has to do with hitting it over the net. Maybe in the kitchen area. [00:14:43] Speaker A: We hit all of them over the net, unless it's an ADP. [00:14:45] Speaker B: Thank you very much. I meant, like, if you're already me. [00:14:49] Speaker A: From outside the court. [00:14:51] Speaker B: I don't know. I was just thinking, we had a question from a new player that they were. They were saying something about if the ball bounced in your kitchen, but there was a backspin on it, so it went back over the net, which I. [00:15:06] Speaker A: Was just describing what you were just. [00:15:07] Speaker B: Describing, but you were thinking more of it bouncing back toward your correct competitors. [00:15:14] Speaker A: On the ATP side. Yeah, but both happened. In fact, it happens much more the way you're describing it. [00:15:18] Speaker B: And I. And I feel like you were saying, yes, you can hit it, but I don't recall all the details of that conversation. And so if that would be my guess, I would guess that's a. [00:15:28] Speaker A: You have to follow the ball over the net. You cannot precede it. That's what I'm saying. When I say follow the ball, it has to go over the net first before you can cross the net line. That is not an Ernie. I mean. Excuse me. That's not a Bert. [00:15:38] Speaker B: Okay. [00:15:39] Speaker A: A bert is an Ernie done from the other side of the court by the player who had to go all the way across the court. So if I'm playing on the left side. [00:15:48] Speaker B: Yep. [00:15:48] Speaker A: And you're playing on the right, I'm going to earn the. I mean, I'm going to be on the left side. That's where I'm going to earn you from. But if I run in front of you all the way across the court and I hit an Ernie from the other side, that's called a burt. [00:15:59] Speaker B: Wow. [00:16:00] Speaker A: Yes. [00:16:01] Speaker B: That's crazy. [00:16:01] Speaker A: Much more rare, but way unexpected. [00:16:04] Speaker B: Yeah. You have to really talk to your partner because you need to tell them, go the other way. The other way. [00:16:09] Speaker A: Which is. Or maybe they're bad. Or maybe they're back. Or maybe you're covering the court because they had to get a ball. Whatever. [00:16:17] Speaker B: Right? A lob or something. [00:16:18] Speaker A: Yeah. It's effective. But if you. To your point, if you don't communicate well and you screw it up, I mean, you've just left three fourths of. [00:16:26] Speaker B: The court wide open and you're exhausted. [00:16:28] Speaker A: I don't know about that. It's like 24. [00:16:31] Speaker B: I'm picturing a really high energy game at this point. [00:16:34] Speaker A: So you're picturing high energy athletes or. [00:16:37] Speaker B: Just high energy activity? Yeah. I mean, we can all try. [00:16:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Can. So that's a Bert. [00:16:46] Speaker B: So nasty. Nelson ATP. [00:16:49] Speaker A: Yep. [00:16:50] Speaker B: And Ernie. [00:16:51] Speaker A: Yep. [00:16:52] Speaker B: Erne. [00:16:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Ernie and a bert. Correct. It feels more natural to say Burton Ernie, doesn't it? [00:16:58] Speaker B: It does. I want to. [00:16:59] Speaker A: Nothing wrong with that. [00:17:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:00] Speaker A: Who cares? I don't know that there's any rules in what order we name these things. [00:17:04] Speaker B: Okay. [00:17:05] Speaker A: Four wonderfully fun shots to hit. [00:17:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, what about what I was saying before? So you do. It's just a good hit. [00:17:14] Speaker A: Yep. [00:17:14] Speaker B: Now, what if you don't touch it and it goes back over? They hit it and has a nasty backspin on it, lands in the kitchen, bounces back over somehow. [00:17:24] Speaker A: Yep. [00:17:24] Speaker B: Wind probably aided that. [00:17:26] Speaker A: Yep. [00:17:27] Speaker B: Whose point is it? [00:17:28] Speaker A: Let me ask you a question. [00:17:30] Speaker B: Yes. [00:17:30] Speaker A: If what you're asking is who wins the rally? [00:17:32] Speaker B: Yes. [00:17:33] Speaker A: Because you don't score point unless you're serving in traditional score. Okay. Using all the logic that you have a ton. Don't get. I'm not trying to pick on you. I'm just saying, using all the logic you have about a game. [00:17:44] Speaker B: Right. [00:17:44] Speaker A: Any sport, and especially pickleball, who do you think is gonna win that rally? [00:17:49] Speaker B: The person that hit the ball. Because the other team didn't touch it. [00:17:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:53] Speaker A: And that's exactly right. [00:17:54] Speaker B: That's why I just wanted confirmation. [00:17:55] Speaker A: Yep. You got it. Yeah. And I think that's true about a lot of pickleball. Like, you just think through it. How could you hit such a great shot that comes back to your side and they never touch it and go, it's our point. Like, no, it's you. It's yours. You've won it. Right. They can't say it's theirs. And a lot of pickleball. A lot of the rules are that way. If you just think about it logically. Well, this doesn't make any sense. So this makes sense. It's probably that rule, right? Yeah. For instance, people say all the time, well, if I have to be standing outside the kitchen when I hit the ball, what if I jump up in the air and hit it, and then I land in the kitchen? Well, that's a fault. And you know it is, because the momentum rule. But logically, it makes sense. Otherwise, you could just jump on every shot and spike every ball. [00:18:40] Speaker B: Right. [00:18:40] Speaker A: And just land in the kitchen. [00:18:41] Speaker B: Right. [00:18:42] Speaker A: Well, that's not how the game is designed. So logically, it makes sense that you'd have to stay behind the kitchen line. [00:18:48] Speaker B: Logically. [00:18:49] Speaker A: Yeah. Not everything's logical. So I was playing today with my boy, Eddie Spencer. [00:18:55] Speaker B: Yes. [00:18:56] Speaker A: Love playing with Eddie. One of my favorite guys to play with. And normally I don't get to play with him very long because I get there earlier than he does. And I'm usually pretty wiped by the time he gets there. But today I got there later. So we're playing against Greg Anderson, and I do not know the name of his partner. So. Sorry, if you're listening, partner of Greg Anderson today. And I was just in a squirrelly mood. No surprise. [00:19:19] Speaker B: Not surprised. [00:19:20] Speaker A: No. So instead of serving underhand, I tossed the ball up and served it overhand. [00:19:26] Speaker B: What? [00:19:27] Speaker A: Well, it's illegal. [00:19:28] Speaker B: Right. [00:19:28] Speaker A: But Greg and his partner can't call it. Now, that's not logical, is it? [00:19:34] Speaker B: No. [00:19:35] Speaker A: He just looked at me and he was like, are you taking that? Are you calling that? I just wanted to say I was just having fun. Let's do it over. But I was like, no, I'll call it. That's fair. Your serve, Eddie. So I give it to Eddie. Serve. Second serve. But I was just having fun screwing around. [00:19:53] Speaker B: Oh, dear. [00:19:55] Speaker A: I like to do that every once in a while to remind people how stupid some of pickleball is. [00:20:00] Speaker B: Really? [00:20:01] Speaker A: Yeah, but. [00:20:02] Speaker B: But if they don't understand that's what you're doing, then I don't know if your point has been made. [00:20:06] Speaker A: Um, I think. I don't think Greg thought I wanted to keep that play. [00:20:11] Speaker B: He was just kind. [00:20:13] Speaker A: Also, he hit it back into me and I just caught it. So either way, he was gonna win the rally even if we didn't call my serve bad. [00:20:20] Speaker B: Sure. He's such a nice guy. [00:20:24] Speaker A: He's a good guy. His wife played today. Julia. [00:20:27] Speaker B: Oh, good. [00:20:27] Speaker A: And she's been out for a while. Cause she hurt her elbow. I think she tripped and fell on it. [00:20:32] Speaker B: She fell hard, right? Yeah. Over her dog. [00:20:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Stupid dogs. [00:20:38] Speaker B: It wasn't intentional. The dog was. [00:20:40] Speaker A: Oh. The dog didn't, like, run over and be like, I'm gonna drip Julia. [00:20:42] Speaker B: Right, right. It was chasing something. [00:20:46] Speaker A: Dogs aren't stupid. They just love us too much, and they're under our feet all the time. That's the problem with dogs. [00:20:51] Speaker B: Oh, dear. You're gonna get all nasty comments on our face. [00:20:53] Speaker A: That's why I just said, dogs aren't stupid. They love us both. Good things. [00:20:58] Speaker B: People just know he's a little stung because he tripped over our dog today. [00:21:03] Speaker A: Correct. [00:21:04] Speaker B: He's just a little. [00:21:05] Speaker A: Thankfully, I did not land on my elbow. [00:21:07] Speaker B: No, you're just grumpy. [00:21:09] Speaker A: I wanted to kick her through the room, but I can't do that. It's not nice. [00:21:12] Speaker B: It's not nice. And you'd have the wrath of the family. [00:21:14] Speaker A: So don't love our dog. [00:21:15] Speaker B: She is sweet. [00:21:17] Speaker A: I'm talking about Julia because she's only been able to play one or two games, and she only put. Only played a couple times in the last month or so, and she was able to go, like, five or six games today. [00:21:26] Speaker B: Yay. [00:21:27] Speaker A: So she knows she's improving, and that's really good. And she loves the game. [00:21:30] Speaker B: Good. [00:21:30] Speaker A: And she and I played very well together. Oh, I must say this. [00:21:34] Speaker B: Okay. [00:21:35] Speaker A: I played with Jeanette today. [00:21:37] Speaker B: Okay. [00:21:38] Speaker A: And we go way back. [00:21:39] Speaker B: Was out for an injury, too. [00:21:40] Speaker A: Yes. We go way back. I love Jeanette very much. I did pick on her at one point. I'll share with that in a second. But I say this with her a lot, because I always think it's fun to say, hey, how's my silver medalist partner? We won silver in, I think it was three, five, like, four or five years ago. And we. We lost to James and Robin. [00:21:58] Speaker B: Okay. [00:21:59] Speaker A: I think we beat them in the round robin, and they beat us in the gold medal. [00:22:03] Speaker B: Okay. [00:22:03] Speaker A: I can't remember. Maybe they beat us both times. Whatever. Rob and James, feel free to correct me on that or. Or confirm it, but they obviously. We got the silver and they got the gold. That would be the game that mattered either way. So Jeanette and I were together today, and I was a little frustrated. I think we were down seven two to a good team. Luke and Steve. [00:22:24] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:22:25] Speaker A: Yeah. So, Luke Gibson and my boy, we love Steve. He's a great guy. And so, anyway, I'm standing just barely on my sort of side. I hate sides idea. But if you think about the center line for where people serve, I'm just barely to the left of it, and she's to the right of it, and there's a ball coming right down the middle. So I just put my pal out to get ready to hit it, and she runs around behind me to hit it with her forehand, and I was like, what are you doing? Because it threw me off. And then I felt really bad because she doesn't deserve that. She's a great player and a lot of fun. And we were down seven, too. Next thing you know, we're down nine two. Dang it. But I'm like, jeanette, I believe in us. Like, we can do this. And she was like, well, we were all screwing around, a bit of fun. And she was like, come on, let's play serious. And I was like, okay, let's do this. We beat Luke and Steve. Eleven nine. [00:23:14] Speaker B: Waiting. [00:23:14] Speaker A: Oh, hold on. It might have been. It was 1210. I think they had game point at one point. I think we beat him 1210, but it might have been eleven nine, but. Oh, it was. It was awesome. [00:23:24] Speaker B: That is awesome. [00:23:25] Speaker A: Yeah, it was awesome. Jeanette played fantastic. We had a really good game, and we beat Luke and my boy weedy. [00:23:33] Speaker B: Wow, that's impressive. [00:23:34] Speaker A: So, yeah, it's a lot of fun. This pickleball game is crazy, isn't it? [00:23:40] Speaker B: Are there any other, like, things I need to know? Any strange terminology that you want to cover before we end this podcast? I don't want to look dumb. [00:23:51] Speaker A: You don't look dumb, honey. I. Those aren't things that. Those are. Those are much. [00:23:58] Speaker B: As a new player, you can easily get distracted thinking, was that legal? And then. So it can throw you. [00:24:05] Speaker A: I I think maybe one shot and we might see it. The rule change next year. We'll see. Or the year after. But they changed this year's rule on a carry. So if the ball looks like it's being carried on your paddle. Right. [00:24:18] Speaker B: Kind of like you're catching it weird for me as a volleyball player. [00:24:21] Speaker A: Yes, it's illegal. [00:24:22] Speaker B: Yes. [00:24:23] Speaker A: But they just made that rule this year. [00:24:25] Speaker B: Okay. [00:24:27] Speaker A: They used to have the rule as to where we had to judge whether or not it was intentionally carrying it or not. Like, you caught the ball in your pal and you threw it back over, so to speak. [00:24:35] Speaker B: Right. [00:24:36] Speaker A: I think what they might do is go to a rule where if it looks like it's been hit on the paddle more than one time, like, it feels like a double hit, even that will be illegal. [00:24:44] Speaker B: That makes sense. [00:24:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't, I just think that's a tough one to really judge at full speed. [00:24:52] Speaker B: You have to be on the honor system for that. [00:24:54] Speaker A: But the biggest problem with the rule book in my mind, and I mean the rule book in general, not a specific rule, is that there's so many rules where it's like if you don't have a referee, then you can't make that call. Well, then that doesn't make it a pickleball rule to the 97% of people that never play with a referee. [00:25:12] Speaker B: Right. [00:25:13] Speaker A: So what is it? [00:25:15] Speaker B: Well, I mean, like other sports have rules like that. Like in martial arts? Yes, in martial arts, obviously, if you are practicing a specific skill, you're going to do it while you're practicing. But in competition, because we don't want to kill anybody, you can't do that move. [00:25:33] Speaker A: That's vice versa of what I'm saying. [00:25:35] Speaker B: But I'm just saying there are times when you're in a competition, like a tournament, and you're going to have specific rules that wouldn't be normal in everyday play. I mean, I'm just saying other sports do that. [00:25:50] Speaker A: I can't call a carry on you, but a referee can. [00:25:54] Speaker B: Right. [00:25:54] Speaker A: So does that make a carry legal or not legal? That's the question I'm asking. [00:25:58] Speaker B: I. What I'm. [00:25:59] Speaker A: So why? I'm simply saying why should it be legal? Because there's no referee. [00:26:03] Speaker B: I hear your point. My point is we're gonna fight about this chick. I don't think we have to because I think we're basically on the same page. But my point is, if you're in everyday play, if it's not legal, then you're on an honor system. So you're, hopefully you're playing with people that are going to be ethical, just like line judging and all of that. I mean, there are times when, you know, the ball was possibly in, but you might have set out and you have to play with your own conscious. Wow, I can't say that word. [00:26:38] Speaker A: Conscience. [00:26:39] Speaker B: Conscience. It just didn't. [00:26:41] Speaker A: I got you, baby. [00:26:41] Speaker B: It was like stuck. [00:26:42] Speaker A: Conscious. [00:26:43] Speaker B: My tongue got stuck. I don't know. [00:26:45] Speaker A: Anyway, so that's a weird word because it's conscience, which is like against science. [00:26:51] Speaker B: Right. [00:26:51] Speaker A: Right. [00:26:52] Speaker B: So you have to be on your, you have to be honorable and say the right thing. Whereas in a competition that has referees, that burden is kind of lifted off of you because there are people watching. You have your line judges and you have your referees. [00:27:07] Speaker A: Yeah, I concur. Actually, I think the con prefix, if it's Latin, I got to go backwards because I had to think about this for a second. Actually means with. [00:27:17] Speaker B: I was gonna say in Spanish, con means with, but. [00:27:20] Speaker A: Yeah, well, Contra. [00:27:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:23] Speaker A: Is against. [00:27:24] Speaker B: Mm hmm. [00:27:25] Speaker A: So con men has a lot of negative connotations, but I forgot that the latin does mean with. With or together. Yeah. [00:27:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Like the cup company contigo. [00:27:39] Speaker A: That means contigo. With Tico, it means they should call their company Cantaco. How would have bought a lot more from them. [00:27:49] Speaker B: With me. Yeah. Or with you. Basically with you. [00:27:53] Speaker A: Okay, well, the other definition of it means on the negative side or in opposition. I just looked it up on Merriam Webster. [00:28:01] Speaker B: Well, there you go, people. Just in case you were confused. All right. [00:28:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:07] Speaker B: Well, I have definitely learned some things tonight, and I think more watchful of the nasty. [00:28:14] Speaker A: Nelson, are you going to try to hit a birth this next week? [00:28:17] Speaker B: Um, probably not. I have a big health fair coming up in a week, and so, um. [00:28:23] Speaker A: They keep you healthy for the health fair. [00:28:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:25] Speaker A: Hey, plug it real quick. Plug it. Oh, well, this comes out on Wednesday, so. Yeah. Okay. [00:28:31] Speaker B: Yeah. So there is a free health fair. It is free to attend, and it's. There's activities and fun events for the whole family. [00:28:40] Speaker A: Bouncy house. [00:28:41] Speaker B: Not a bouncy house. But you do have our open play, which is in our trampoline. [00:28:46] Speaker A: Pickleball. [00:28:48] Speaker B: There is. [00:28:49] Speaker A: Wait, wait, wait. Sorry. Open play is not pickleball in the trampoline room. Right. [00:28:52] Speaker B: No, no. Pickleball. We haven't implemented that yet. Maybe some dodgeball. I don't know. But there is some. There are some pickleball demos. Luke will be out there where you can go play. [00:29:05] Speaker A: Luke Gibson? [00:29:06] Speaker B: Yep. He'll be inviting people to come out and play and try it for the first time. So there's gonna be a lot of fun activities, not just with Pickleball, but. [00:29:14] Speaker A: Where is this event? [00:29:15] Speaker B: It's gonna be at community sports and wellness on June 14, which is Friday. [00:29:20] Speaker A: That's in Pendleton. Let's be crystal clear. For maybe people that don't know, you. [00:29:23] Speaker B: Can go to our website, which is www.communitysw.com health fair. It'll be actually health dash fair, and you can learn more, or you can just go to the website and click the button. And it's also on Saturday, June 15, from 09:00 a.m. to 03:00 p.m. and there's so much. I wish I could tell you all the details, but there's some fantastic things that are going to be free. There's going to be some things that cost. You can go get your CPR certification for only dollar 42 on Saturday. And that will require you to register ahead. And that link is also on the website. There's going to be a blood drive on Saturday from nine to one. We're hoping to get 15 units of blood out of that blood drive. So please come help our community. [00:30:13] Speaker A: How much you're trying to get? [00:30:14] Speaker B: 1515 units. [00:30:16] Speaker A: Only units. Doesn't seem like very much. Is it a unit per person? [00:30:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:20] Speaker A: So you need 15 people to donate. [00:30:21] Speaker B: Blood that has usable blood? Yep. [00:30:24] Speaker A: Sure. [00:30:25] Speaker B: So if they're on a specific medication or they try and it doesn't, meth. [00:30:29] Speaker A: Heads may not come in and give out their blood. Well, that's what I'm hearing from you. I. I know you're trying to be nice. I'm just saying. That's what you're saying, right? [00:30:37] Speaker B: If we test the blood and there's crack in there. No, just sometimes people have, um, an iron count or a blood thinner. [00:30:43] Speaker A: Maybe you throw on a blood thinner. [00:30:44] Speaker B: Yeah, throw. Their iron count is too low and it's not usable or something like that. I'm not. [00:30:48] Speaker A: What if stud count is very high? [00:30:51] Speaker B: Have not heard that as an issue. [00:30:52] Speaker A: Okay, good. I'll go ahead and donate then. [00:30:54] Speaker B: Wow. Okay. I'm just looking around the room. I don't know why I was thinking somebody heard you say that. Anyway, we're putting this on. [00:31:04] Speaker A: Thousands of people are gonna hear me say it. Maybe millions, unless you cut it out. [00:31:09] Speaker B: Here, let me clap. [00:31:10] Speaker A: No, we're not cutting it out. All right, well, thank you, everybody, for liking and subscribing. And listening. [00:31:17] Speaker B: And sharing. [00:31:18] Speaker A: And sharing. Good call. We haven't said that one before. Hey, on behalf of me, Kevin Huff, and the lovely sky, sweet love, huff. Cheers, everybody. If you're still listening for the bonus material, I got nasty Nelson today by my friend Sean Dempsevich. Darn you, Sean.