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[00:00:00] Speaker A: We're already recording, but I don't even have a zoom up yet.
[00:00:03] Speaker B: Really? How'd you do that?
[00:00:04] Speaker A: There's a little place to put a chip back here.
[00:00:06] Speaker B: Interesting.
[00:00:07] Speaker A: So it should give us the best quality of all. But I'm turning on zoom because I've never done this to make sure I don't screw it up.
[00:00:12] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:00:13] Speaker A: If it works, we don't even need zoom anymore.
[00:00:16] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:00:16] Speaker A: I know. It's pretty cool. Well, we need it, like, for our secret, super secret special sauce guest next week. Yeah, I cannot wait. Are you nervous about that?
[00:00:27] Speaker B: No, I am.
[00:00:31] Speaker A: I don't want to screw it up.
[00:00:33] Speaker B: Well, the nice thing about this person, the nice thing about being a podcaster and not being live is that we can always take.
[00:00:44] Speaker A: Hey, I need to take an extra half an hour with you so that I can find just enough quality content to make it look good.
[00:00:50] Speaker B: We have. Yeah, we have that ability.
[00:00:53] Speaker A: You and I have been sick this past too long.
[00:00:56] Speaker B: We sound a little nasally tonight.
[00:00:58] Speaker A: We do. I can't really fix that with my tools. No, I'm on the mend. You're on the mend?
[00:01:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:01:06] Speaker A: But I can hear you sound a little bit on the Michigan side, for those who don't live out here, a little extra nasally.
[00:01:14] Speaker B: Sorry, y'all.
[00:01:15] Speaker A: Sorry. Hey, we have five.
[00:01:17] Speaker B: We have five listeners.
[00:01:18] Speaker A: Now, as each of you introduces yourself to us in the wild, we've decided to start adding the numbers that we know. We have more than five. But every time someone says, oh, hey, I listen, I'm one of your. I'm one of your five, that has to be the phrase. They go, I'm one of your three listeners. Okay, now we have four. We go, I'm one of your four listers. Oh, now we have five. So when whoever says to us, I'm one of your five listeners, you're going to bump us to six. So that's.
[00:01:41] Speaker B: It's the professor the Last time challenge.
[00:01:43] Speaker A: Yes. The Professor. Michael Ray, out of. Out of the good county of. What the heck is Muncie in Delaware. Delaware County. The good county of Delaware.
Gosh, I don't even have our music ready. I am so out of practice. Yes. It's been a while since we've been in the podcast studio.
[00:02:03] Speaker B: I was so nervous about tonight. I took notes.
[00:02:06] Speaker A: Cheater.
[00:02:08] Speaker B: No, I'm prepared.
[00:02:11] Speaker A: Hold on. I'm gonna find our music, see what happens here if we get it rolling.
[00:02:18] Speaker B: That's what I should have said. I'm ahead of the game.
[00:02:23] Speaker A: I love it. Okay, well, we Had a big tournament last weekend.
[00:02:29] Speaker B: Big for us for sure.
[00:02:30] Speaker A: Not two days ago, but the weekend before Thanksgiving.
[00:02:34] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:02:35] Speaker A: Honestly, I put a post out on Facebook, and I think it was in maybe the kitchen, I can't remember, but one of the more popular large pickleball groups on Facebook. And I said, what do you like? What's a big tournament to you?
And I got back some good answers, but people were saying anything over 200 they feel like is a big tournament.
[00:02:54] Speaker B: Interesting.
[00:02:55] Speaker A: And I was like. I would have said 300. I mean, it's.
There's no science. I just was curious what people were thinking.
And we had 400 and, like, 50 registrants, but 405 players, when it was all said and done, 10% dropout ratio a little higher than normal. I Normally see about 7. This was 10. I think it's just because the holidays right there.
[00:03:16] Speaker B: And holidays, it's just cold season.
[00:03:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:03:19] Speaker B: But injuries.
[00:03:21] Speaker A: Speaking of injuries, I got one tonight.
[00:03:24] Speaker B: Yes, you did.
[00:03:25] Speaker A: I got a shiner. It looks like my wife smacked me hard. Normally she does, but it's the other side.
[00:03:29] Speaker B: So this time she.
[00:03:30] Speaker A: So people will be like, where's that from? Your wife usually hits you on the other side.
[00:03:33] Speaker B: You're. You have some ninja skills yourself. You're silly.
[00:03:37] Speaker A: Anyway, so the tournament.
[00:03:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:39] Speaker A: You were an amazing partner.
[00:03:42] Speaker B: Oh, thank you, honey.
[00:03:43] Speaker A: And we weren't on the court together. She was my co. Well, there were really three of us that were running the tournament. I had a Justin out at the facility.
[00:03:51] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:03:52] Speaker A: Who's the pickleball director there? And then I had my lovely wife and me, and we ran the tournament. And it was other people's words, really smooth. Went really well.
[00:04:02] Speaker B: That's what you want them to think.
[00:04:04] Speaker A: That is what you want them to think.
But we were like. We walked away going, man, I wish I would have done.
[00:04:10] Speaker B: Of course.
[00:04:11] Speaker A: So what's your list? You have a list of things you wish you would have done differently or better?
[00:04:14] Speaker B: I. I made a column for good, what we learned, and a column for bad.
[00:04:21] Speaker A: Like, it's like, this is your column for good. And if there's enough things in this column, then Santa will bring you a gift on Christmas Day.
[00:04:28] Speaker B: I think Santa will bring us something for how he behaved at the tournament.
[00:04:32] Speaker A: Probably. List of things to fix.
All right. What. What was your put. What's on the good column?
[00:04:37] Speaker B: Well, as a trainer, low or no injuries.
[00:04:43] Speaker A: Oh, as a personal trainer.
[00:04:45] Speaker B: Yep. I always get panicked that people are going to hurt themselves.
[00:04:49] Speaker A: Yeah. We had one lady who whipped her head around in A weird way.
[00:04:55] Speaker B: And had vertigo and it jacked her.
[00:04:57] Speaker A: Ears up and she got vertigo. It was kind of an injury associated with pickleball, but it was an unexpected one. It wasn't an ankle or an Achilles.
Right. A muscle. Yeah.
Okay. What else do you have in the good column?
[00:05:11] Speaker B: People left happy.
[00:05:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:14] Speaker B: Definitely even a lot of happy people.
[00:05:16] Speaker A: The people who didn't win.
[00:05:18] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:05:19] Speaker A: Which is what you want.
[00:05:20] Speaker B: That's a sign of a good tournament.
[00:05:22] Speaker A: Okay. We had a four game minimum, guaranteed every player four games. We're gonna run a new tournament. Another tournament new to us in February, Sl March.
And we're going to have what? What do we determine? Was it a six game?
Five game?
[00:05:37] Speaker B: Five game minimum. Six game minimum.
[00:05:38] Speaker A: Five game minimum. And a guarantee that everyone has at least a shot at a gold medal.
[00:05:43] Speaker B: A medal round.
[00:05:44] Speaker A: So everyone that plays in the round robin advances.
[00:05:47] Speaker B: That's what we're designing right now.
[00:05:48] Speaker A: Be really cool.
[00:05:49] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:05:50] Speaker A: But that comes out of what we learned from this tournament. So what else was in the good column?
[00:05:53] Speaker B: We are mostly on time.
[00:05:56] Speaker A: Yeah. Only Friday night. Really? There was one hiccup on Sunday when there was a misunderstanding with one of our pod captains and the group that went out there with them.
[00:06:04] Speaker B: The group didn't listen to the pod captain.
[00:06:06] Speaker A: They didn't listen to me. And the instructions out in the hallway?
[00:06:08] Speaker B: That too.
[00:06:09] Speaker A: They just want to go play pickleball. And I get it. Like, I would be the same.
[00:06:12] Speaker B: Of course, that's what they're there to do.
[00:06:14] Speaker A: But we learned from that.
It's not good to have a group of nine.
[00:06:18] Speaker B: We did it. Yes.
[00:06:20] Speaker A: That was an easy pickup for us. We were like, okay, done. We won't do groups of nine anymore. No more 19 groups. Okay, what else?
[00:06:28] Speaker B: The last one is we the last one already? Well, I wasn't gonna.
[00:06:32] Speaker A: All right, go ahead.
[00:06:33] Speaker B: I didn't know what you have. You can add some too. How about that? We raised a lot of money for the hungry.
[00:06:41] Speaker A: 12,000 plus meals will be served as a result of this tournament. I actually think it's more, but I don't have all the numbers in yet. Well, I know it's more. I shouldn't have all the numbers in yet.
[00:06:51] Speaker B: Yeah, we have a few little loose ends.
[00:06:52] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I don't mean numbers. I've got the numbers in from the people giving and already have given donations too. But not all the numbers in terms of what we. What we end up having to give away. So we give away 50 more bucks. It's another anywhere between three, you know, 30 and whatever. 70 meals, just depending on which group.
[00:07:09] Speaker B: Yeah. We have a few items to collect for the silent auction and that will increase the meals too.
[00:07:15] Speaker A: Did you text our friend from last night's dinner?
[00:07:16] Speaker B: Not yet.
[00:07:17] Speaker A: Okay, let's do that.
[00:07:18] Speaker B: Busy day.
[00:07:20] Speaker A: Okay. So I'll. I'll add maybe one or two really fast.
The software worked really well.
It really did. During the stinking tournament. But leading up to the tournament, it was a pain in my butt.
[00:07:36] Speaker B: Yes, it was terrible.
[00:07:37] Speaker A: So that's on the other list. But at the tournament, thank goodness, it worked really well. 920 some odd games were played at the tournament, and only two games that I recall that Justin and I had a inaccurate score and had to go back and fix things with. That's not bad.
So that's a good thing also.
[00:07:57] Speaker B: Yes, it was.
[00:07:58] Speaker A: All right, what's. What do your other columns say? Me.
[00:08:01] Speaker B: So the next column is what we learned.
[00:08:03] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:08:04] Speaker B: And so the first one is we need a better workflow behind the scenes. We had some hiccups.
[00:08:11] Speaker A: Runners with scores, runners with scores, captains assembling groups together to listen to the player announcements. All of it. Check in. All of it.
[00:08:23] Speaker B: The players didn't see the hiccups so, so much. But we felt it, which was extra pressure.
[00:08:29] Speaker A: It was.
I'll tell you what, though. By midday Saturday after. Friday night was. Friday night was rough. It was singles. We literally packed it out as many as we could have had. Like, we couldn't have taken anymore. It was getting late, um, and it started 15 minutes late, and everything was 15 minutes late as a result. That means we were on time in terms of our scheduling, but we just couldn't get the courts open fast enough. So that was a drag. Um, nobody's fault. I mean, we just. We got them when we. We got the test courts when we got them, but it wasn't quite enough time to get all the courts laid out in time.
[00:09:00] Speaker B: And luckily we have a great support system. So when we did have a hiccup, there was somebody we could reach out to and ask for help. And they were hands on. And that was just so wonderful. Lisa Farley was one of them. She was great.
Other people come to mind, but she.
[00:09:17] Speaker A: Was a back pocket person for me. She was totally had in my back pocket. She wasn't really around.
[00:09:21] Speaker B: No.
[00:09:22] Speaker A: But I could call her. And I did, I don't know, four or five, six times, something like that.
[00:09:27] Speaker B: Leading up to the tournament.
[00:09:28] Speaker A: Yeah. And she was very helpful. And then only once at the tournament, I was able to figure that out. So it Worked out pretty well.
[00:09:33] Speaker B: It was so nice. Very, very thankful for her. So the second thing on my list is don't play in your own tournament. At least not the first time that you run a tournament.
[00:09:43] Speaker A: I did not.
[00:09:43] Speaker B: You did not play, and that was helpful. But I know taking me out of work was hard on you. And I will have to say, the mental gymnastics to go from checking someone in to putting in, you know, a score to helping a pod captain it, and then to go and play with my partner. I really enjoyed playing on Saturday. That was a little easier day for me than Sunday, but mostly because of exhaustion. But I had a great partner, Tina. She was her first time ever playing in a tournament, so her excitement was contagious, and that kept me fueled for the event. But I knew as soon as I got off that court, I needed to go straight back. And so I didn't really give her the time that I would have liked to be able to have given her, being her partner. And the same is true for Sunday. I was a substitute for a gentleman that needed a female partner. Never met him.
Great guy.
I believe his name was David.
[00:10:53] Speaker A: And she didn't know that until after they were done playing with each other, and I had to remind her.
[00:10:58] Speaker B: I gave my nickname, though, and it worked again, mental gymnastics at one point while we were playing. And he doesn't necessarily know this, if he listens to our podcast, he'll find out. But it was like I hit an exhaustion wal and I was having fun because he was a lot of fun to play with. He was all over the court. He was super fast, and I just hit a wall. And it was like a video game where I was out of fuel and I was like.
And I was. He just. We lost. And so. Yeah, I need a sound effect for that.
[00:11:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:33] Speaker B: And I feel bad because I. He paid to play and I couldn't give him my best.
[00:11:38] Speaker A: He emailed the next day and said he had a blast.
[00:11:40] Speaker B: I know, I know. And I. And I love that.
[00:11:43] Speaker A: Played men's doubles. So he was just trying to sneak in another match, which worked out really well, so.
[00:11:48] Speaker B: And it was only 10 more dollars to play. Yeah, five more.
[00:11:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:52] Speaker B: And so it wasn't that big of a deal, but I. It was still time out of his weekend, and, you know, and time is treasure. So I felt bad. And you know me, I like to give my best in whatever I do. And so, yeah, I thought next time I do. If next time I decide to play, I'm going to make sure that I have someone to Cover for me so that I can give my partners the appropriate, absolute attention and time makes a.
[00:12:21] Speaker A: Lot of sense to me.
Okay. I don't. Learning for me, it was.
I know that I'd like to have a little different control over the score inputting.
It was not bad because it was just me and Justin, and we only messed up on two. Like, so I think that was good. Don't get me wrong.
[00:12:41] Speaker B: Right.
[00:12:43] Speaker A: So I will say that I learned that we did it right instead of the way I've seen it done in the past, which is people running around with iPads, gathering scores here and there. I'm pretty sure, if I recall correctly, that there have been more mistakes made with more people handling devices than with less people handling devices. I really like the scores being written down on paper so that I can get back to somebody a week later. Because I've had questions. I go, here's the. Literally, on Wednesday after the tournament, I had to pull sheets of paper out to share scores that were captured.
[00:13:14] Speaker B: Interesting.
[00:13:14] Speaker A: If we didn't have those pieces of paper, I wouldn't be able to verify anything.
[00:13:17] Speaker B: So someone challenged and.
[00:13:19] Speaker A: No, there was a mistake in the. In something with Duper. And so we had to back out completely and rebuild an entire event.
[00:13:27] Speaker B: Whoa.
[00:13:28] Speaker A: And there's 44 events, right? So there's, you know, men's doubles, 319, or open age 35 plus 50. You count them all up. There's 44 events. We had to rebuild an entire one. And. Well, actually, we had to rebuild all of the singles events. No, but this was something different. Yes.
[00:13:45] Speaker B: Now, that's Friday night.
[00:13:46] Speaker A: Duper didn't upload any of them. Every single Friday night Duper event had to be. Event had to be reloaded for Duper.
[00:13:52] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:13:52] Speaker A: Let me say that again. I think you guys heard me, but I'm gonna say it again. Every single Friday night event had to be rebuilt so that Duper would capture it. Then what did Duper turn around and do? Double captured most of them.
[00:14:04] Speaker B: Oh, no.
[00:14:05] Speaker A: So now it's like, hey, dear Duper, please fix this freaking problem.
[00:14:09] Speaker B: Interesting.
[00:14:09] Speaker A: Yeah. And the people that are winning don't care. But the people that lost those games, like, hey, I now have an extra loss I didn't earn. I'm like, yeah, but an extra win you didn't earn, too.
[00:14:18] Speaker B: That's interesting.
[00:14:19] Speaker A: All right, anyway, so I like. I, like, learned that we did the right thing in terms of how we manage scores. And keeping them on paper is for sure for me.
All right, what else is on your. What's your. Oh, this is your next list. What's on your.
[00:14:32] Speaker B: Well, I. I have one more thing to add. It's kind of funny. It's not really something I learned, but I. And maybe it's my imagination, but I felt like when I was playing in the tournament that I'm helping to run, I didn't get the ball as much. And I don't know if that was because they weren't hitting it to me.
You know, they were picking on my partner, which usually is me. It's. I'm usually the one that gets picked on.
Or if they're like, oh, she's a tournament director. I don't want to hit it at her and make her mad at me. It just. At one point I thought, wow, I have not touched the ball in, like, four returns.
[00:15:15] Speaker A: So I'm sorry, babe, I love you, but you're only that special to me.
Definitely not what it was.
[00:15:22] Speaker B: At one point I told my partner that was fun to watch because I didn't get to play at all that round.
[00:15:28] Speaker A: It just happens every once in a while.
[00:15:29] Speaker B: It just. It was funny.
[00:15:31] Speaker A: So, look, maybe they thought he was the weaker partner at that point in time, or maybe they saw something that you didn't know and it was to his backhand or something.
[00:15:37] Speaker B: I don't know. Yeah, it happened both times with both partners.
[00:15:41] Speaker A: That's pretty funny.
[00:15:43] Speaker B: It was. It was fun, though.
[00:15:45] Speaker A: So we're moving to the bad list.
Okay. What do you got? I should have a sound effect for that. Do I not have a sound effect?
[00:15:52] Speaker B: Do we have a sound effect?
[00:15:53] Speaker A: I don't know. I don't think I do. All my sound effects are kind of.
[00:15:56] Speaker B: You need crickets. You have a cricket. Yay.
[00:16:00] Speaker A: That's what I play when you start talking.
[00:16:05] Speaker B: Oh, there you go.
[00:16:06] Speaker A: I guess there's no sound effect for what? Oh, yeah, there is. Hold on. There is.
[00:16:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:13] Speaker A: I knew I had one.
[00:16:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:14] Speaker A: Okay, that's.
[00:16:15] Speaker B: That's.
[00:16:16] Speaker A: Sorry to my Gen Z and millennial fans for being cheesy and using the soundboard.
[00:16:20] Speaker B: Sounds too funny. I really only have one.
[00:16:25] Speaker A: Oh, great.
[00:16:26] Speaker B: There's loose ends left to do.
[00:16:29] Speaker A: Need a new tournament director. Oh, good. I read the wrong thing. Okay.
[00:16:32] Speaker B: No, no, there's loose ends. So what people don't always realize is the amount of prep that goes into a tournament.
Then, of course, there's the work during the tournament, and then there's the post work afterwards.
So we still have thank you notes to write. We have baskets to still collect for and deliver.
I want to issue a Report to our sponsors as well, especially those who are wanting the data.
So it's. It's those type of things, those little things that you're exhausted after a big tournament and you still have those items left to do.
[00:17:13] Speaker A: I definitely feel that too. And for me, it's been a lot more associated with the Games or, you know, I don't see my picture on Facebook or whatever.
[00:17:20] Speaker B: And, like, that was me.
[00:17:21] Speaker A: And that doesn't bother me because I want them to see their picture on Facebook. Right. That's a big thing for us. We really want to make a big deal out of the people that played and the ones that. Especially to comb the medals.
And we got them all. We finally got them all out there. They're all posted. I mean, no one else is saying anything, so that's probably a pretty good sign.
[00:17:37] Speaker B: I need to go back and count.
[00:17:38] Speaker A: Yeah. But, you know, some other things that I learned was more capable of doing these bigger tournaments.
[00:17:46] Speaker B: Definitely.
[00:17:46] Speaker A: I mean, I have done one in the past that was a little larger. No, it was a little smaller. 399 was the official number registered. 425 and 399 played. And it was the same tournament. It was the first year of that tournament Hunger Games, But I had Lisa Farley not just in my back pocket, but, like, running a lot of it with me. We were coaching tds, and then this time I had Justin. We were technically co TDS for this one as well. And I had you, so. And I say I had because I took the lead, but, I mean, I had you, right? Yeah. Well, we had our kids. We had a ton of other volunteers, but we had great sponsors.
[00:18:23] Speaker B: Great sponsors.
[00:18:24] Speaker A: Great sponsors. Thank you again to all of our awesome sponsors.
Okay, let's. Let's see.
[00:18:30] Speaker B: Speaking of which, we also had. This is something I learned. I should put this in the learn category, but it aided to our good category, which was hydration.
So we had David from 5.0 on the show before, and he talked about hydration, how important it is.
We gave out his hydration drink for free to players.
[00:18:56] Speaker A: How much did that one little tub make? Was it 3 gallons or 5 gallons?
[00:18:59] Speaker B: He said it was 3 gallons, but I made it into 5 gallons and it tasted just fine.
[00:19:03] Speaker A: So we gave out 10 gallons.
[00:19:05] Speaker B: Gave out 10 gallons of hydration. Drink quality on both Saturday and Sunday and ran out. Well, it's funny. I saw people filling up their water.
[00:19:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:14] Speaker B: Bottles with it. I was like, oh, okay, there it goes.
[00:19:18] Speaker A: If they didn't know it was water and they got a surprise, maybe during their.
[00:19:20] Speaker B: No, they knew what it was. Okay. They were very excited about it. Anyway, I. I believe the free fruit that we handed out and the hydration drink aided in reducing. Reducing injuries.
[00:19:32] Speaker A: We had no cramping injuries. I heard of anything.
[00:19:34] Speaker B: No cramping.
[00:19:34] Speaker A: We gave out a ton of bananas, oranges, apples, hydration and the hydration drink.
[00:19:40] Speaker B: And they had a water refill station already at the location.
[00:19:43] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:19:44] Speaker B: It was definitely something important.
[00:19:47] Speaker A: It was a lot of fun.
[00:19:49] Speaker B: Thank you to David too, you know.
[00:19:51] Speaker A: And it earned us an opportunity to do the next tournament. So we were asked to dinner last night by a couple very well known in the pickleball world in the Fisher's area. I don't know, is it a. It's probably not a secret at this point because I'm going to have it published by the time this gets out there. No, tomorrow morning was something. So I don't know. Yeah, just think it a little bit.
[00:20:09] Speaker B: Edit.
[00:20:10] Speaker A: No, just thinking.
We'll leave that in for fun.
You'll hear about it within a week, folks. I'll try to announce. Stay tuned on the next podcast when we have our super special guests.
[00:20:23] Speaker B: And then for those of you who are looking at doing your own tournament in your own area, think about the hydration. Check out our special promo.
[00:20:32] Speaker A: Give us a shout.
We'll happily talk through some stuff with you if you want. I'm just gonna say it one more time. You will be shocked, listeners, all five of you, when you hear who our guest is.
[00:20:45] Speaker B: When we introduce him, are you going to give him a hint?
[00:20:49] Speaker A: Oh, heck no.
[00:20:50] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:20:50] Speaker A: Just like I don't tell you what we're gonna do on these things. I'm not giving.
[00:20:53] Speaker B: Well, luckily, I know I gave them a hint.
[00:20:55] Speaker A: I gave them a hint.
[00:20:57] Speaker B: You did.
[00:20:57] Speaker A: It's gonna knock their socks off, man.
[00:20:59] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. This is a big.
[00:21:00] Speaker A: That's not a riddle. Don't be. Don't be figuring out who's nicknamed Socks Jack Sock is not coming on the podcast.
It's not that kind of a hint.
[00:21:08] Speaker B: True. It's just we get to record, too, next week.
[00:21:12] Speaker A: Actually, I'm super excited about both.
[00:21:14] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:21:15] Speaker A: Because one of them. For our geeks out there, it is going to be cool because we're going to get into some paddle technology conversation.
[00:21:22] Speaker B: So cool.
[00:21:23] Speaker A: Really cool. And this guy's ahead of the game.
[00:21:25] Speaker B: Definitely.
[00:21:26] Speaker A: So. All right, what else? Anything else? You want to leave this lovely group that we were talking to with?
[00:21:31] Speaker B: I just want to say I know this is coming out after Thanksgiving, but I want everyone to know that we are thankful and grateful for our listeners. We do this for fun and it's so wonderful to meet people who listen to our podcast and all of the brand new listeners that might have joined us since the tournament. We're just grateful for you and we're thankful for you and thank you for listening.
[00:21:55] Speaker A: First week of December, Date night check.
[00:22:00] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: Well, yeah, I think it's a wrap, baby. Don't forget to tell your friends that we're ahead of the game and so are.