A Look in the Rearview Mirror; a Sneak Peek into the Future!

[00:00:00] Speaker A: I have no idea. This is so funny. So when you texted me that we were going to talk about what we're going to talk about in 2025. That's hilarious. Because you very rarely give me any hint about what we're talking about. [00:00:14] Speaker B: Well. [00:00:14] Speaker A: And all of a sudden, you want to give them a preview of what we're gonna do. You're basically giving me a preview. [00:00:23] Speaker B: Is that how you look at it? [00:00:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:00:25] Speaker B: Good enough for me here. No preview for you. [00:00:35] Speaker A: It's so funny. So when you were texting me, I. [00:00:37] Speaker B: Was like, okay, no, no, no, no, no. Let's start with 2024. You're in review. [00:00:43] Speaker A: Let's do it. [00:00:44] Speaker B: Man, we had some fun last year. [00:00:47] Speaker A: The whole thing was fun. [00:00:48] Speaker B: Was so fun. Doing a podcast for you, our faithful. 11 listeners. [00:00:53] Speaker A: We have 12. [00:00:54] Speaker B: 12 listeners. What? [00:00:56] Speaker A: Yep. I heard from number 11. So. [00:00:58] Speaker B: Okay. [00:00:59] Speaker A: At least. Or number 12. [00:01:00] Speaker B: Whatever it is. [00:01:01] Speaker A: Whatever it is. [00:01:01] Speaker B: We're probably gonna stop and go back to three, just so we remember. [00:01:05] Speaker A: Trying to count and remember. [00:01:07] Speaker B: You guys are awesome. We're over 2, 000 listens, which is really freaking cool. And that's. [00:01:15] Speaker A: What's the percentage on that Mr. Math guy? [00:01:17] Speaker B: Well, it's 33 episodes. [00:01:20] Speaker A: Okay. [00:01:21] Speaker B: So the math is weird, but that's like 60 listens per episode. [00:01:26] Speaker A: I thought you had some sort of milestone or marker that we had to hit and we would be in a certain percentile of podcasts that survived or something like that. [00:01:35] Speaker B: Oh, we're in it. [00:01:36] Speaker A: We're in it. [00:01:37] Speaker B: Oh, we're past it. Yeah. We're here to stay. [00:01:40] Speaker A: We've made it past the barrier. [00:01:42] Speaker B: It's like our marriage, they say. And I forget the exact year, but I think it's. Once you hit 28 years. [00:01:49] Speaker A: Right. [00:01:49] Speaker B: The likelihood of divorce goes below. Below 3%. [00:01:53] Speaker A: Wow. [00:01:53] Speaker B: Not per year, but like the rest of your marriage. [00:01:55] Speaker A: Because we're so tired. We're like, whatever. [00:01:57] Speaker B: It's because kids are out of school by then, and if they make it through that phase of their life. [00:02:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:01] Speaker B: They must have done something right. [00:02:03] Speaker A: Which makes the joy that we've brought to ourselves through the podcast and to others mean just that much more. [00:02:12] Speaker B: Well. And pickleball paddle pricing has been going up. I know the Latest from Pro XR is 300 wow. And we are a Pro XR family, but you're making it hard on us. [00:02:23] Speaker A: Well, sure. But I did get a present. [00:02:27] Speaker B: Yeah, you did. I had to hide it. So, Jessica Jones, if you're listening, I. I had to tell a little fib using your name. So if sky says something to you, you now know why. A new paddle came in the mail for sky. And I was like, pink. Oh, that's for Jess. [00:02:41] Speaker A: Luckily, I didn't open it, because if I had seen a pink paddle, I'd be like, really? This is for Jess. [00:02:46] Speaker B: And in the past, we've had enough paddles come through our house that were for Jess, that I was able to use that as my excuse. [00:02:51] Speaker A: Yes. [00:02:51] Speaker B: Get away with it. And she believed it. And then after all of our presents were opened, you forgot to wrap it. No, I didn't. I knew exactly what I was doing. [00:03:00] Speaker A: Oh. [00:03:01] Speaker B: I. I quote, unquote, hid it in the laundry basket. In the laundry basket. I knew she wouldn't see that. Folks, that's not true. [00:03:08] Speaker A: I do all the laundry. [00:03:10] Speaker B: I hid it that morning, and I just said, hey, is there something in that laundry basket? She was like, it's for me. [00:03:18] Speaker A: I was so happy. [00:03:19] Speaker B: And what was it? [00:03:20] Speaker A: Revelin. [00:03:21] Speaker B: Revelin what? [00:03:23] Speaker A: I don't remember. [00:03:25] Speaker B: Pro Pure control or something like that. [00:03:27] Speaker A: I don't know. I just. Babe, this is how bad I am. It's pink and it's reveling, and I'm so excited to play with it. That's. That's all y'all need to know. [00:03:35] Speaker B: Well, we are a Pro XR family, so I'll let you try it out. [00:03:38] Speaker A: Whatever. [00:03:39] Speaker B: I'm kidding. [00:03:39] Speaker A: You can totally. [00:03:40] Speaker B: I'm really excited for you. Well, because we had Revlon on. I mean, we had Hugh and Sophie. We love them. We love their paddles. And I joke about being a Pro XR family. I think our daughter probably uses a Selkirk still. Although she might have a Pro XR now. [00:03:54] Speaker A: Talon is a sell. Kirk Miranda has a Pro X. [00:03:56] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, there you go. [00:03:57] Speaker A: But it. The present came not from Hugh and Sophie, but from my boss. [00:04:01] Speaker B: Yes. [00:04:02] Speaker A: Pickle place. [00:04:02] Speaker B: So she knows you love Reveling. [00:04:04] Speaker A: Yes. [00:04:05] Speaker B: Which is just the coolest. [00:04:06] Speaker A: It was so fun. [00:04:07] Speaker B: So my wife has a new paddle, and she got it for Christmas. Who else got a paddle for Christmas? Send us your notes. Let us know if you got a paddle for Christmas. [00:04:16] Speaker A: Awesome. [00:04:16] Speaker B: Yeah. 2024, Sky. What I thought we would do is we would go back and forth a little bit here and maybe share each of us two or three of our favorite episodes or even favorite quotes or favorite comments or really anything that just struck out from the podcasts that we did in 2024. So you can't. You can't just talk about the year and be like, oh, I got a new car. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about what what in our podcasts were memorable to you and awesome to you. And so to help you cheat, I'm pulling up the list of all of our podcasts over here on the screen. And I can zoom, I can scroll through them like this for you, or I can do whatever, but that's about the most I can get on that screen at one time. [00:05:08] Speaker A: Thank you. That's very helpful. [00:05:10] Speaker B: Okay, I'm gonna go all the way back to the beginning. [00:05:12] Speaker A: Let's do. [00:05:13] Speaker B: Which is still our number one most listened to podcast is our first podcast. [00:05:17] Speaker A: Well, it had. [00:05:18] Speaker B: It makes sense. [00:05:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:20] Speaker B: It wasn't. Because about that time. It makes sense because anyone that finds a podcast starts with the first one. [00:05:25] Speaker A: I always do. [00:05:26] Speaker B: Right. We've been to hell and back. That one has over well over a hundred listens. [00:05:34] Speaker A: That's nice. [00:05:35] Speaker B: Which is really cool when I say we were averaging about 60 listens each. Lessons. Yes, 60. I almost said lessons. 60 lessons, 60 listens each. That one's like 130 or 140, I think. My Duper isn't. The Pooper is probably my favorite title. [00:05:53] Speaker A: Of all of them. That's one of my favorite episodes too. [00:05:55] Speaker B: It was a good one, but because I. [00:05:57] Speaker A: Not only was it funny and we got to, you know, make fun of the situation, but it also is very relevant to just about any pickleball couple. [00:06:08] Speaker B: I think we'll need to revisit that one because they've made some changes to their algorithm. And I, I. What I find interesting is now that this whole reliability score piece, which existed back then, but not as well as it does today. I'm. I'm literally in the middle of running a tournament, Furry Fracas. And we're expecting about 400 players to sign up. It's at the brand new Pickler in Noblesville. They're not even open yet. And we're March 1st and March 2nd for the tournament. And as a tournament director, I don't want sandbagging. [00:06:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:38] Speaker B: I don't want my 479 player, you know, playing in 3.5 mixed doubles. [00:06:42] Speaker A: That's mean. [00:06:43] Speaker B: So, yeah. So I'm looking at every player. Well, pickleball brackets. The app we use shows their duper. [00:06:50] Speaker A: Right. [00:06:50] Speaker B: But it doesn't tell me the reliability score. [00:06:53] Speaker A: So are you doing some investigation? [00:06:54] Speaker B: I have to. So it goes for you. Hey, so and so is a 4.27. Okay. So a woman popped up that I know, and it said she was like a four, three seven and I was like, wow. No, she's like a three one. And I'm not slamming her. It's just like, she's not a 437. [00:07:08] Speaker A: Right. [00:07:09] Speaker B: So I go into Duper. I pull her name up. Sure enough, 4.37. But 1% reliability, which is basically like being like, I don't even know why I gave you a number yet. Duper shouldn't even put a number out there till it's at least 50% reliable. [00:07:23] Speaker A: I'd say at least. [00:07:24] Speaker B: What's the point? [00:07:25] Speaker A: 30% reliable. [00:07:26] Speaker B: What's the point? [00:07:27] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:07:28] Speaker B: So 30% reliable means. Well, three out of ten times we might have got this. Right. So what I've decided for this tournament is 75% reliability is my marker. If you're at least 75% reliable in duper, I'm going to use that Duper score to. To determine what the lowest level you can play in is. [00:07:46] Speaker A: Okay. [00:07:47] Speaker B: If you're not 75 in duper, then I don't know what your Duper is. Neither do they. [00:07:53] Speaker A: That's interesting. [00:07:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:55] Speaker A: Yeah. We're. One of the things I'd like to see us do in 2025 is have some T shirts. And JoJo and Low said that they would do a My Dupers in the Pooper shirt for us. So I'm still. I filed that away for the day. [00:08:12] Speaker B: I love it. [00:08:13] Speaker A: That actually happen. Actually happens. [00:08:15] Speaker B: We had some other podcasts that came out after that. I just gave you one of my favorites, which is my Dubbers and the Pooper. What's one of your favorites? [00:08:25] Speaker A: Which one? I think it was a myth one where you said, oh, dear. If you just think. Or when you think. What was that? [00:08:37] Speaker B: It was probably so bad it was Myth Busting part one or Myth Busting. [00:08:40] Speaker A: Part two, basically making it sound like I don't think. But if I did think it would be relevant to me or not relevant, it would be. What's the word? [00:08:53] Speaker B: Yeah, thanks for bringing that one back up. We got a lot of feedback on the one that's called Our People Deserve Some Meat. And in that one, we really got into a lot of strategy. [00:09:07] Speaker A: Yes. [00:09:08] Speaker B: So we got a lot of good feedback. People really liked it, so we'll probably do more of that. My other favorite title was let's Talk About Fecken and Beckon, but no one really seems to understand what I'm. No one knows Telecom like I did from 1998. Doesn't really matter. But I just like the words because I use it in the middle of the podcast and it sounded funny. Our. Our other one that got a lot of feedback was steal my idea. [00:09:31] Speaker A: Yes. That was a good one. [00:09:32] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think it's probably time to do another one of those in the next month or a couple months. [00:09:37] Speaker A: I would be. New ideas to do another one of those. That was a fun one. [00:09:41] Speaker B: Yeah. New ideas. That was a good one. [00:09:43] Speaker A: Brainstorming about pickleball ideas and what the future of pickleball holds. Yeah, absolutely. [00:09:48] Speaker B: We talked about what's in your bag. That was kind of fun. We talked about running a tournament. We did a couple of episodes on that. That was kind of fun. They didn't get quite the feedback as much as some of the other ones did. Coming a little bit more recently, we did the myth busting ones, which you just talked about real quick. We had Blake on from pickle play, and of course, you worked for them, so that was pretty awesome. The next one you liked, I think you had told me, was it the Alphabet soup one that you liked with all the acronyms in it? [00:10:17] Speaker A: Well, I liked it because it was helpful. Since I'm still learning. I'm still a little bit behind. I'm getting there every day because of working in the industry. But it's nice to be able to have someone spell it out for you, as we did in the ABC episode, because so many times when we. When you're involved in anything, whether it's pickleball or your own industry, you tend to use your industry logo. And when you're talking to somebody new, they get lost. And sometimes it feels like people do that to you to just make themselves, like, bigger and better. But then there are some that are just so excited about the game, they forget that others don't understand. And it was a good episode to catch everybody up. [00:11:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Cool. We just had our beginners class on Saturday this week, and which I just hits me that right after Alphabet soup, the very next episode we did, it was where to start. And it was. And it was a whole process of how we teach our beginners. We just went through it again on Saturday, took eight people. Within two hours, they're playing pickleball. They know the scores, they're having a good time, and they're ready to go out to the public parks and join the lower level groups and. And start growing their game. I love teaching beginners. [00:11:34] Speaker A: It is fun. [00:11:35] Speaker B: Love it. We're at 1200 something, signed waivers at our church now. [00:11:41] Speaker A: It's incredible. [00:11:41] Speaker B: That's how many people have come through and played at our church, the majority of which have been Beginners, but by all means. A lot of people that knew how to play have also come through. [00:11:50] Speaker A: I'm really surprised, too, about how many people came onto the podcast and were willing to trust us, like Brent POS and building courts. Construction. [00:12:00] Speaker B: John Hurley over at 24 7. [00:12:03] Speaker A: Even our friends Lisa Farley and Luke Gibson. [00:12:06] Speaker B: Yes. Jessica Jones. [00:12:08] Speaker A: Jessica. And that was a tough one because we were talking about. [00:12:11] Speaker B: We picked on her a bit. [00:12:13] Speaker A: We did. And she was cool with it. She was. She was a champion. [00:12:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:16] Speaker A: You know, having, you know, the, you know, pros and business owners and it's just. It's really. [00:12:24] Speaker B: Having Hugh and Sophie on was awesome. But my dream episode was Zane. [00:12:28] Speaker A: Absolutely. I mean, like, it just. [00:12:30] Speaker B: My boy. [00:12:31] Speaker A: It's amazing to me that people are willing to share their time. [00:12:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:36] Speaker A: So that we can. [00:12:37] Speaker B: I'm working on a female pro, by the way. [00:12:39] Speaker A: Okay. [00:12:40] Speaker B: For March. [00:12:40] Speaker A: Oh, that'd be fun. [00:12:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:42] Speaker A: It's just. It's. It's amazing to me. It's. It. [00:12:44] Speaker B: It might be female prose. Plural. Ooh. We shall see. [00:12:47] Speaker A: I think I know who you're talking about. [00:12:49] Speaker B: You probably do. [00:12:51] Speaker A: Anyway, you get my point. I love the fact that other people are enjoying the podcast and. And even people that we had no idea would even be interested in. [00:13:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:02] Speaker A: Participating. [00:13:03] Speaker B: If you think about the scope of 2024 and, like, all the various things we talked about in pickleball. Right. We talked about learning how to play the game. We talked about your skill levels. We talked about strategy. [00:13:17] Speaker A: We talked about how to make a pickleball community in your. [00:13:20] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. How to build a community. We talked about tournaments. We talked about some of the interesting, fun stuff like Nasty Nelson's and Ernie's. Yeah, we totally did. We talked about ideas of new businesses. Here's. And then it gets even wilder than that. Right. We talked about our stroll through the process to my thinking behind fam, which is footwork, accuracy, angles, and the mental part of the game. We. We talked about all the myths in pickleball. We. I mean, gosh, guys. And then we brought in people, people that run an app. We talked about all the acronyms and the. From everything. The PPA and UP and all those people. We talked about cool new inventions, like the top golf of pickleball. Right. [00:14:07] Speaker A: That's incredible. Yeah, we're looking. [00:14:09] Speaker B: We talked about building courts. We talked about things that we might consider unethical and. Or ethical in pickleball. [00:14:16] Speaker A: Just the rating systems. [00:14:18] Speaker B: Much stinking stuff. We talked about people that sell shirts. We talked about people that sell drinks. We talked about People that sell paddles and make paddles and make those drinks and invent those things and. [00:14:28] Speaker A: And why. And why they do it. [00:14:31] Speaker B: And we brought on a pro and had a lot of fun with long haired Zayn. [00:14:34] Speaker A: And the best part was for us watching him on the Zoom call his dog in the background when he changed. [00:14:41] Speaker B: Shirts to his crazy one and he changed his. It was the best. And you guys will eventually see that on YouTube. We'll get it out there somehow, some way. [00:14:46] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. That was so fun. [00:14:48] Speaker B: So we really covered a lot of. [00:14:52] Speaker A: Material of pickleball, and it hasn't even been a year yet. [00:14:55] Speaker B: April's when we started. [00:14:57] Speaker A: Isn't that crazy? [00:14:58] Speaker B: Yeah. 32 episodes. Officially, we had one. What do we call it? We called it. It was like an extra episode in the middle. It's like an emergency episode. Like. And that was preparing for a tournament the night before. Yes. [00:15:08] Speaker A: Yeah. What do you do to prepare a couple special episodes? [00:15:11] Speaker B: That was the only one that was a special episode by definition. [00:15:15] Speaker A: Got it. [00:15:16] Speaker B: But yeah. [00:15:18] Speaker A: So tell me about 2025, man. [00:15:20] Speaker B: Obviously, drop some hints a little bit. I think I want to talk about maybe a little bit more about some other apps. Like, I want to talk about pickleball brackets. [00:15:35] Speaker A: Okay. [00:15:35] Speaker B: And for tournament directors, I want to talk about coaching. We haven't really touched on coaching much, and I think coaching is a big one. [00:15:43] Speaker A: Okay. [00:15:43] Speaker B: So I want to touch on coaching. I'm going to talk on what I think might be a. An actual glut in the number of courts that we have. [00:15:51] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [00:15:54] Speaker B: That might be a surprising episode. [00:15:56] Speaker A: I have some on my wish list. [00:15:58] Speaker B: What's on your wish list? [00:16:00] Speaker A: Well, because of where I work, I get some great. I get to talk to some great people. And so I would love to talk to Chicken and Pickle. [00:16:09] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, they're big. Pickleball, Pickle play people now. [00:16:13] Speaker A: They are. Yes. And then I'd love to talk about leagues. [00:16:19] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, we haven't talked about leagues. Really? [00:16:20] Speaker A: We've been promising them. We do a whole episode or two on. And I would love. [00:16:26] Speaker B: That's a great idea. [00:16:27] Speaker A: I'd love to talk about why it's important to get a UTRP score. [00:16:32] Speaker B: Well, of course you would. [00:16:33] Speaker A: Of course I would. [00:16:34] Speaker B: You now work for UTR Sports, who owns Pickle Play. [00:16:37] Speaker A: Yep. [00:16:37] Speaker B: That's now public knowledge. So I can say it out loud. [00:16:41] Speaker A: But it's not just that. The reason why the free enterprise system works is because of competition. [00:16:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Duper needs a competitor. [00:16:48] Speaker A: Yep. [00:16:49] Speaker B: Because usap, she ain't getting her Done well. [00:16:53] Speaker A: And I was just reading an article in Zayn's new newsletter. Couldn't say. [00:16:59] Speaker B: Was it his new newsletter? [00:17:00] Speaker A: His new. [00:17:00] Speaker B: Yeah, that makes sense to me. [00:17:02] Speaker A: It came out today. [00:17:02] Speaker B: Carry on. [00:17:03] Speaker A: And it was talking about some turmoil that happened with a tweet. And it was based on the amount of money that pickleball is making. [00:17:14] Speaker B: Oh, yes, the Connor Pardo, Jill Beaverman fight. [00:17:19] Speaker A: Very juicy. [00:17:20] Speaker B: What is interesting is we haven't gotten into that spicy stuff. [00:17:23] Speaker A: We. We don't need to. [00:17:24] Speaker B: You know what? We need to get Maurice the grease pickleball on here with us because he'll light up the spicy stuff. [00:17:29] Speaker A: Hey, bring him on. I was just interested. The thing that I pulled out of that is I kind of just ignored the drama because I don't need drama in my life. But I was looking at the numbers of how big the pickleball industry has become. A one billion dollar industry. [00:17:45] Speaker B: It's huge. And it's not even big yet. [00:17:47] Speaker A: Yes, because there are a lot of people that don't even know what pickleball is. Are they still making fun of pickleball? [00:17:52] Speaker B: You wait until you hear what China is doing with pickleball. [00:17:54] Speaker A: And I hear about it all the time. [00:17:55] Speaker B: It's insane. [00:17:56] Speaker A: I hear about it all the time because one of my new customers with pickle play is in Trinidad, and one of the number one nation that visits his island is China. So. And they love pickleball. [00:18:10] Speaker B: They are killing it over there. [00:18:11] Speaker A: Well, sure. Anybody that grew up playing pingpong or. [00:18:15] Speaker B: Tennis, we also have like four times the number of people we do, so. [00:18:17] Speaker A: And you can play it in small spaces. [00:18:19] Speaker B: You can grow fast. [00:18:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I didn't mean that to be a joke, but it makes me want to laugh. [00:18:27] Speaker B: I don't think it's funny, so I'm not going to join you. [00:18:31] Speaker A: Sometimes I just laugh at myself. [00:18:34] Speaker B: I know this after 32 years of marriage. [00:18:38] Speaker A: Hey, that's why I'm so joyful. [00:18:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Hey, honey, why don't you go in the corner and laugh at yourself? I'm busy over here. Go ahead and just go there and laugh for a while. [00:18:47] Speaker A: That's probably why it happens. [00:18:48] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness. [00:18:49] Speaker A: Anyway, I haven't been out of the house because of snow. [00:18:55] Speaker B: What other topics do you think we should tackle in 2025? I tell you what, I'll throw one at you. It's not really a topic, but are there other pickleball podcasters that I want to get onto? Our podcast? Matt and Abby Brandenburger, for instance? I totally want to get them on Here they've said yes. It's just a question of timing now. But I think that they would be wonderful. [00:19:13] Speaker A: There's so many possibilities for 2025. [00:19:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:18] Speaker A: I definitely want to do an anniversary episode when we hit our one year mark. [00:19:22] Speaker B: I want to do one on drills. We did do one in the past, a little bit on drills, but I want to do more the mechanics part of it now. Not just the. The. There's some drills, right? Yeah. Like the overhead. [00:19:34] Speaker A: Well, and there's some rule changes this year. [00:19:37] Speaker B: You know, there's not much really in that space, but we can. Let's do the. Let's do next week on rule changes. That's a good idea. [00:19:43] Speaker A: Okay. [00:19:43] Speaker B: It's. It's no big deal. [00:19:46] Speaker A: That's good. [00:19:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:47] Speaker A: Anytime I hear rule changes for a person that loves to follow the rules, it makes me nervous. [00:19:53] Speaker B: You know, the biggest rule change this year I think is. [00:19:58] Speaker A: Well, don't tell them. Save it for next. [00:20:00] Speaker B: Coming next week. No, because they may find themselves with this issue this week. [00:20:04] Speaker A: Oh. [00:20:05] Speaker B: They have redefined when a swing starts for a hit which actually impacts what happens at the no volley zone or the non volley zone. So we'll get into that next week. [00:20:16] Speaker A: Is it true that you can serve overhead now? [00:20:19] Speaker B: Okay, you need to quit watching dumb YouTube videos or tick tock videos at freaking 6 o'clock in the morning. [00:20:24] Speaker A: I did. Stop. [00:20:25] Speaker B: Okay. [00:20:26] Speaker A: I did. [00:20:27] Speaker B: But you just watched that one like yesterday, so. [00:20:29] Speaker A: What do you mean? It was. [00:20:30] Speaker B: I just. I haven't had a drink in four minutes. No, it's not true. So here's one of the problems that we have and this is a great thing to bring up and we'll. Let's just wrap up with this, with this comment, okay? The pros do a ton of videos and people at home watch the pros videos like on how to what drills and stuff. But they also watch the pros playing pickleball. But they don't watch the average Joe's playing pickleball. They don't want to watch Kevin and Sky play 3.5, you know, tournament at CSW. That's not. [00:21:04] Speaker A: Unless they love us. [00:21:05] Speaker B: Again, that's not people. That's fam. Then that's a whole different story. [00:21:09] Speaker A: Sure. [00:21:09] Speaker B: And even then, you rarely watch me when I'm not with you and you're married to me because you're not allowed. [00:21:15] Speaker A: To yell from the sidelines. [00:21:16] Speaker B: No excuses necessary. I'm simply saying you really watch you every time. Even from home, you don't watch. That's what I'm Saying, I do watch rarely. [00:21:23] Speaker A: I sneak in. [00:21:24] Speaker B: Keyword was rarely. And here's the thing, folks. If you're watching the pros, they have different rules. [00:21:31] Speaker A: Oh. [00:21:31] Speaker B: And that's the problem. We don't know that as a society of pickleball community player people. We don't recognize that their rules are different. For instance, a very simple one that most of you should know but may not know, a serve that hits the top of the net and bounces in is in, and you play it. The pros on the PPA tour do not. It's a let. Okay, well, now, you watch the pros play and you're not paying attention to the rulebook, because why would you. I just go play for fun. That serves, not in. It's a let. It's not a let. The rulebook says there's no such thing as lit. I just watched the pros play on Saturday. It's a let. It's not a let. Freaking pros. Really? Not them. It's a freaking ppa. [00:22:17] Speaker A: Right? That is. [00:22:19] Speaker B: Let's have Steve Cage on here. [00:22:21] Speaker A: That'd be fun. [00:22:22] Speaker B: Let's. Let's do it. We'll get Steve Cage on here. He'll be a good one. He's a local pickleball maniac, and I love him. Entrepreneur, entrepreneur. Pickleball man. Lots of involvement. Owned. Owns a part of one of the MLP teams. [00:22:37] Speaker A: Heart of Gold. [00:22:38] Speaker B: Owns a part of Pickler Corporate. We'll let him talk about some of those things when he gets on and see what he said. [00:22:44] Speaker A: That'd be a great idea. [00:22:46] Speaker B: We'll make sure he brings Barb along with him as well. She's extra special. I love her. She always has extra good insight, too. [00:22:54] Speaker A: Absolutely. And she's a great player. [00:22:56] Speaker B: Okay, well, I think we said we would leave it off with that last comment I made. We've already gone past that. [00:23:01] Speaker A: It's so easy to do. [00:23:02] Speaker B: It's because we love this game, everybody. [00:23:06] Speaker A: We never did our intro. [00:23:07] Speaker B: We did. [00:23:08] Speaker A: We did. [00:23:08] Speaker B: And now we're trying to do the outro, and you're ruining it. Make sure you tell everybody that we're. [00:23:13] Speaker A: Ahead of the game and so are you. [00:23:15] Speaker B: Hey, you did it right. [00:23:16] Speaker A: Hey, now. [00:23:18] Speaker B: Goodbye, everyone.